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Yanks or Red Sox? They'll take the Rays

Posted on: July 3, 2008 12:49 pm
Edited on: July 3, 2008 1:00 pm
 

David Ortiz says in this morning's Boston Herald that he still thinks the Red Sox and Yankees are the two best teams in baseball.

Two scouts who watched the Red Sox get swept at Tropicana Field don't agree.

"If you look at the two clubs out there last night, there's no comparison," the first scout said. "And I'm serious. Tampa Bay has a better ballclub."

"It's not even close," the other scout agreed. "In every facet but the closer."

There are still questions about the Rays, particularly about whether their bullpen can hold up (especially if Troy Percival can't stay healthy). And there are those who wonder whether a young team that hasn't been through a pennant race before can survive through August and September.

"The second half is tougher," the scout admitted. "And they have a younger club. But they've got some talented guys, and talent overrides that."

The Rays are in the market for another bat in the outfield, with Xavier Nady the name most mentioned. They're also in on the C.C. Sabathia sweepstakes, even though their rotation is already the best in the division.

Another weakness is at first base, where one scout said that Carlos Pena "looks just like he did when he was playing for Detroit."

As for the Red Sox, they have to be looking for bullpen help.

"If the guys they have don't get any more consistent, I can't see them winning," the scout said. "Other than (Jonathan) Papelbon, there's no one there to rely on, that I can see."

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Could the Braves actually be sellers in this month's trade market?

It's almost hard to imagine, because the Braves of recent years have always been a team that goes for it. And despite being five games under .500, the Braves are only six games behind the first-place Phillies.

But one club that has spoken with the Braves said that Atlanta officials intend to meet in the near future and decide whether or not they have a realistic chance of winning. If not, they'll sell, with Mark Teixeira the biggest and most interesting name available.

The Braves don't believe they have any chance of signing Teixeira long-term, and he's a free agent at the end of this season. Teixeira told reporters in Atlanta that he hopes the Braves don't trade him, but with no chance of keeping him past this year.

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One scout's handicap on the C.C. sweepstakes has the Brewers leading, followed by the Rays, Dodgers, Phillies and Cubs. The Indians seem prepared to move fast.

"It could happen tomorrow, or it might not happen until the 31st," said one person who speaks regularly with GM Mark Shapiro.

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The Royals have told teams that they would at least listen on Zack Greinke, because he's one of the few players they have who could bring a big return. "It's going to take three good pieces to get him, but (GM Dayton Moore) will listen," one official said. . . . The Reds have told teams that only five players are off-limits in trade talks. The five? Edinson Volquez, Jay Bruce, Joey Votto, Johnny Cueto and Edwin Encarnacion.

 

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Posted on: July 3, 2008 3:38 pm

Yanks or Red Sox? They'll take the Rays

The difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox compared to the Rays is that ownership is not willing to do what is required to have a winning team for any length of time. The Rays are more like the Marlins, sure they are winning now but what happens when players get close to free agency or even arbitration. The Rays will sell. They are not going to sign someone before the trade deadline, because they don't want to pay the price for a championship, or even a dynasty.



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Posted on: July 3, 2008 4:40 pm

Yanks or Red Sox? They'll take the Rays

The difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox compared to the Rays is that ownership is not willing to do what is required to have a winning team for any length of time. The Rays are more like the Marlins, sure they are winning now but what happens when players get close to free agency or even arbitration. The Rays will sell. They are not going to sign someone before the trade deadline, because they don't want to pay the price for a championship, or even a dynasty.

 

CollinsYankees,

    That is actually pretty incorrect and this is coming from a fellow Yankees fan.  The Rays have actually been very creative this year.  The Rays know they don't have tons of money so that extended all the contracts of their young stars while they can still afford them.  As a Yankees fan, I was very sad to see that neither Scott Kazmir nor James Shields will be on the market again until 2011 (DANG IT!!)  They have also tied up Evan Longoria through 2014 and are in talks with Matt Garza to sign him through atleast 2010.  I really wish you were correct about the Rays not willing to do what it takes to win, but it looks like the Rays ownership wants to create their own little dynasty with the money they have.  They are doing it the right way.

Viz

 



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Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2008 10:42 pm

Yanks or Red Sox? They'll take the Rays

The Rays may be the better team in July, but the MLB season is a marathon not a sprint. No Rays starter has the experience or the track record that the Sox have in their rotation. The Sox have the talent to move Masterson, Buchholz, or even Wake into their pen. They also have the prospects (nobody talks about Michael Bowden) to make a deal for a veteran reliever.



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