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To buy or to sell? A's always seem to have answer

Posted on: July 8, 2008 7:58 pm
 

You're not supposed to be able to play for today AND tomorrow. It doesn't work that way.

You're supposed to have to pick. Go for it now, as the Brewers are doing. Pack it in and play for the future, a la the Indians.

But what about the A's? They just traded Rich Harden to the Cubs, but history (and the American League standings) tell us that they're not the Indians.

So does that mean they're nuts, dealing away a sometimes dominating pitcher (2.02 ERA over his last 10 starts) at a point where they're six games out in the American League West and 3 1/2 games back in the AL wild-card race?

No more so than when they dealt away Tim Hudson and Mark Mulder 3 1/2 years ago. No more so than when they traded away Dan Haren and Nick Swisher last winter.

At first glance, the A's take for Harden doesn't seem that great. Sean Gallagher, the guy they're calling the key to the deal, was ranked by Baseball America as the Cubs' fifth-best prospect entering the season. His numbers so far don't suggest that he's Harden.

But the A's were supposed to be taking a step down (at least for today) when they traded Haren last winter for a group that included Dana Eveland and Greg Smith (both already doing well in the Oakland rotation). They were supposed to be taking a step back when they traded Mulder for Haren back in December 2004.

They keep trading guys away (and perhaps Bobby Crosby will be next, once he gets healthy). They stay competitive.

They play for the future, as general manager Billy Beane says they're doing with today's deal. They do it without giving up on the present.

You're not supposed to be able to do it this way. But maybe the A's can.

They've done it before.

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Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:11 pm

To buy or to sell? A's always seem to have answer

Well, far be it from me to question Mr. Moneyball.  But I am a Cubs fan and I have seen these guys play (except Donaldson).  Patterson and Gallagher are not going to set anyone's world on fire, now or next year.  Murton is a fair hitter with some pop, but he's also a lumbering stiff of an OF--in other words, perfect for the AL.

If Harden stays healthy, this is a horrible deal for Oakland.  Heck, Chad Gaudin is better than Gallagher probably ever will be.



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Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:14 pm

To buy or to sell? A's always seem to have answer

the Cubs took the A's to the showers at the local prison shower on this trade



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Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:27 pm

To buy or to sell? A's always seem to have answer

There is a really good chance that Harden doesn't even make it to the playoffs.  The guy is always hurt and is just about due for another stint on the DL.  I think this trade is a wash for both clubs.  Chicago is going to make the playoffs with or without this guy in the rotation.  Just surprised that a team that has had so much trouble in the past with Prior and Wood, would make a bid for Harden. 



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Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:29 pm

To buy or to sell? A's always seem to have answer

Hard to question Beane's track record here, we'll see what the results say.  Remember, at some point Beane had to deal Harden anyway, so why not now when his stock is the highest it's been in a while?



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Since: Jul 8, 2008
Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:31 pm

OK, but is this really the best answer?

So, let me get this straight...you're saying this is